Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History of Chinese Democracy

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. The issue of merging or renaming can be discussed on the article's talk page. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

History of Chinese Democracy

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Redundant article. Much of it is simply covering various incidents that happened while the band was on tour and the long history of members joining and leaving the band. This is all covered in great detail in the Guns N' Roses article. The rest of it should be pruned and maintained in the main Chinese Democracy article. At this point this is an impossible to maintain mess that is redundantly covered in at least three articles. The solution to this problem is not to sweep things under the rug by splitting articles, it is to maintain the current articles and prevent them from becoming over run with a minutiae of details. Ridernyc (talk) 16:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:18, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - A number of parts of the article I found confusing as to how they related to Chinese Democracy. The subject is notable and the article sourced but, as the nominator states, the Chinese Democracy article probably the best place for any info not covered in that or in Guns N' Roses. But is there really need for an extensive analysis of leaks during the album's development? ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 00:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or merge; in other words, close this AFD and address the articles and subject through normal editing and discussion. This album had a ridiculously long history and its development was covered by the press and music industry publications in detail for nearly twenty years. So there's at least a reasonable basis for its history having a standalone article. Even if there are unnecessary details that could be pruned such that the subject could be covered sufficiently within the album and band articles, that's a task for a careful editing scalpel, not an AFD chainsaw. postdlf (talk) 21:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:13, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: If kept, perhaps this (and the main album page) should be renamed. "History of Chinese Democracy" makes me think of democracy in China, not a rock band's album. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:14, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a disambiguation tag at the top of the article which I've reworded and relinked to the actual history of democracy within China. That should be sufficient. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 10:41, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.